This is quite a special episode in that I get to interview my boss. Laurence Jankelow, an experienced real estate investor and former Goldman Sachs executive, is co-founder and COO at Avail. Laurence is one of the most versatile and eclectic people to be featured on Tech Nest. He got into real estate investing first with tax liens and then by managing properties. Over the years, he's built Avail from the ground up, doing everything from coding the first versions of Avail (then Rentalutions) to marketing and customer service. Laurence is one of the best when it comes to breaking down operations and creating systems to effectively build and grow a business—and we get to talk through that a bit as well. This episode is very relaxed and laid back, but is packed full of fantastic lessons and advice for founders in any vertical.